Remove freenode as default network option on initial setup #991

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opened 2026-10-05 04:57:18 +02:00 by adam · 8 comments
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Due to freenode essentially being taken over by a hostile entity (see here )I would suggest the default options for setup be changed to a different server. I would recommend LiberaChat as it is run by former staff that where forced to step down due to the takeover of the network, but any other network other then freenode would probably be a good change.

Due to freenode essentially being taken over by a hostile entity (see [here](https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409) )I would suggest the default options for setup be changed to a different server. I would recommend [LiberaChat](https://libera.chat/) as it is run by former staff that where forced to step down due to the takeover of the network, but any other network other then freenode would probably be a good change. <!-- github-sync-id:941083690 -->
adam closed this issue 2026-10-05 04:57:18 +02:00
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Realistically, it also should be irc.libera.chat as this is where the official #znc channel is located.

Realistically, it also should be irc.libera.chat as this is where the official #znc channel is located. <!-- github-comment-id:877475969 -->
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That's good to know, thanks!

Fortunately, we switched already. Both the default network in the configuration wizard, and #znc are on libera for a while now.

That's good to know, thanks! Fortunately, we switched already. Both the default network in the configuration wizard, and #znc are on libera for a while now. <!-- github-comment-id:877480722 -->
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Well, the wizard change is not in the release yet

Well, the wizard change is not in the release yet <!-- github-comment-id:877480888 -->
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My mistake then! I just setup ZNC again and noticed that it was still freenode, so I wanted to raise the issue here. Thank you for changing the defaults so quickly.

My mistake then! I just setup ZNC again and noticed that it was still freenode, so I wanted to raise the issue here. Thank you for changing the defaults so quickly. <!-- github-comment-id:877482113 -->
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@CensorshipAlert that is bullshit and you know it. ZNC left freenode because their channel was nuked, and you (cmpunches/bagira/phanes, as freenode staff) were entirely complicit in this and hundreds of other unauthorized takeovers of channels belonging to FOSS projects. What other reason is needed?

@CensorshipAlert that is bullshit and you know it. ZNC left freenode because their channel was nuked, and you (cmpunches/bagira/phanes, as freenode staff) were entirely complicit in this and hundreds of other unauthorized takeovers of channels belonging to FOSS projects. What other reason is needed? <!-- github-comment-id:877734460 -->
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I would also like to make it clear, I have had no interactions with any staff at Libera about this, I am doing this of my own accord as a concerned former user of freenode. I simply think that since Freenode is basically a completely different network now, it should not be the default option anymore, and like MetaNova said above, the official #znc channel is also on Libera so it only makes sense.

I would also like to make it clear, I have had no interactions with any staff at Libera about this, I am doing this of my own accord as a concerned former user of freenode. I simply think that since Freenode is basically a completely different network now, it should not be the default option anymore, and like MetaNova said above, the official #znc channel is also on Libera so it only makes sense. <!-- github-comment-id:877753673 -->
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@CensorshipAlert rasengan, did you register on github under a new name just to post this? Honestly, this only looks like a desperate attempt to get users back.

Re ZNC defaults: even if there would be no direct actions against #znc itself (there were), still, the majority of people and projects are now at libera. So it only makes sense to have libera as default now.

Re censorship: if I really wanted to censor people, I'd make ZNC to ignore user's server, and replace freenode with libera for all ZNC users, don't you think? Or do you want me to actually implement such censorship?
There's not much to do now on freenode other than trolling, but people are free to connect to it if they wish. It's just not the default.

@CensorshipAlert rasengan, did you register on github under a new name just to post this? Honestly, this only looks like a desperate attempt to get users back. Re ZNC defaults: even if there would be no direct actions against #znc itself (there were), still, the majority of people and projects are now at libera. So it only makes sense to have libera as default now. Re censorship: if I really wanted to censor people, I'd make ZNC to ignore user's server, and replace freenode with libera for all ZNC users, don't you think? Or do you want me to actually implement such censorship? There's not much to do now on freenode other than trolling, but people are free to connect to it if they wish. It's just not the default. <!-- github-comment-id:877761849 -->
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What's ironic, is certain entities trying to censor out the fact that thousands of users witnessed an exchange of power, by using petty immature comments.

What's ironic, is certain entities trying to censor out the fact that thousands of users witnessed an exchange of power, by using petty immature comments. <!-- github-comment-id:877805149 -->
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Reference: adam/znc#991